tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28924640.post115569547678441957..comments2023-06-22T02:27:01.854-07:00Comments on Shiraz Socialist: Existentialism and Israelvoltaires_priesthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00346308174248473666noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28924640.post-1155763719035348872006-08-16T14:28:00.000-07:002006-08-16T14:28:00.000-07:00Azzam Tamimi.Galloways matehttp://www.moonbatwars....Azzam Tamimi.<BR/>Galloways mate<BR/><BR/>http://www.moonbatwars.com/images/Timmini_on_NPR.mp3Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28924640.post-1155761649666871622006-08-16T13:54:00.000-07:002006-08-16T13:54:00.000-07:00renegade; As I think I've said to you before, I do...renegade; As I think I've said to you before, I don't disagree, in principle, with your version of the "one state solution"...except how do we get there? How do we undo sixty years of hatred, mutual antagonism and violence/ The "two state solution" seems to me to be - not a "solution" but a necessary stage in reconciliation. And it is, therefore, essential that Arab states, Iran and islamist forces recognise Isreal's right to exist - and that they give up their anti-semitic rhetoric about wiping Isreal off the map. Unfortunately, the Lebanon outrages make this less likely.<BR/><BR/>Priest: I am *not* arguing that the destruction of Israel is, in reality, under threat: I'm arguing that the rhetoric of "death to Israel" and other ant-semitic slogans so beloved of Islamists, (some) Arab leaders and the likes of Ahmadinejad of Iran, merely perpetuates what you call "the mentality of 'constant existential threat'that the Israeli right wing rely upon". And its a disgrace that so many on the British "revolutionary" left (not so much the European "revolutionary" left, interestingly) parrot this anti-semistism. <BR/>Finally, may I recommend a refreshingly sane and humanitarian take on the whole ME question? Visit www.opendemocracy.net/globalization/arendt_deutscher_3813.jspJim Denhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00364272346989690845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28924640.post-1155720176229599692006-08-16T02:22:00.000-07:002006-08-16T02:22:00.000-07:00Jim;That doesn't really answer the question as to ...Jim;<BR/><BR/>That doesn't really answer the question as to how it's under "existential" threat. It's surrounded with states that don't like it, yes, but most of them have no intention at all of taking any actual military action against it, and even those groups that might consider it, would never get anywhere. The will isn't there in most cases, and even where it is, the means aren't.<BR/><BR/>Furthermore, it's precisely the mentality of "constant existential threat" that the Israeli right rely upon in order to maintain the militarised state of Israeli public opinion and society at large.voltaires_priesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00346308174248473666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28924640.post-1155710538791746352006-08-15T23:42:00.000-07:002006-08-15T23:42:00.000-07:00Israel fell right into a trap. Hezbollah has Isra...Israel fell right into a trap. Hezbollah has Israel positioned for a land war. Can Israel afford to lose 40 soldiers a day.<BR/><BR/>I believe in one state, with equal rights for Hebrew and Arabic speakers. It has to secular, and ultimately socialist. Under capitalism, questions as water rights, can't be fairly negotiated.<BR/><BR/>Israel has the weaponry to take on anybody, not the industial base, for a prolonged war.<BR/><BR/>Bush planned for Lebanon, to be the crown jewel, of Middle East democracy. Instead he united the country against Israel.Frank Partisanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.com